Here goes though.
Massive massive complacency set in at some point. Jesus I'm embarrassed to read that last blog entry or whatever now. Why didn't I just skip writing the lot and just do the cliffs:
'Dan runs hot in 15k hands of 200nl, plays decently well, but lets it goes to his head and promises to win the 400nl UGL. Dan then plays his next 6 sessions with all the concentration and dedication to his goals and technical ability of our erstwhile Eastender friend.'
I ran bad in that last session, losing over 10 200nl BIs, all of which are reciprocally neutral at the very least except one or 2, but hey I deserved it.
So here's some more pointers for the rest of the 30k hands.
Non Technical Goals Needed for Success
- Skype turned off prior to session (whoever messages me on skype when they catch me on a table wins $50).
- 9 tables max.
- IE and Chrom shut down prior to session.
- No lightheadedness.
Technical Goals Needed for Success
- Stop spewing 100bbs PF with TT, AQ, AJ, and 33. The reason you 3bet is because the regs at 200nl either lie down or 5bet shove 88. Stop playing into their hands.
- Keep 3betting at around 9% overall, your recent 4% was way too nitty and stopped you both from winning lots of small pots and also stop people paying off your big hands.
- Make massive, huge, enourmous adjustments depending on who the villain is. You know all the regs on UB inside and out. Some just lie down every hand, some are massively suspicious of you and will be forever. Stop bluffing them but take this concept right back to PF planning.
- Bobbo cbet strategy on the whole.
- Always plan hands around the PSR.
- Don't call 2 streets to fold the 3rd. Don't call 2 streets to CRAI the 3rd VS one of the afformentioned super suspicious types: Liuhampton, Marclar, Carrotsnake for example.
- Soulread hands based on betsizing tells, virtually every reg at 200nl makes huge mistakes in this regard, be it they cbet $12 into $15 with AK on K75ss but $8 with a flush draw, or the guys who 4bet to $60 to commit themselves with JJ.
So here's an abbreviated version of the above that will be used as my scorecard.
No Skype - x/10
9 Tables - x/10
No browser - x/10
No light headedness - x/10
No PF spew - x/10
Decent 3betting frequencies - x/10
Adjust to villain, plan hand all the way from PF depending on villain - x/10
Bobbo default cbet strategy - x/10
PSR planning - x/10
Don't build big pots the fold, don't build big pots without a decent plan to win the hand - x/10
Soulread based on betsizing - x/10
I'm making a video of this next session, live commentary. Video and review to follow.........
dan
9 comments:
The whole not calling 2 streets unless calling the third is flawed thinking. There are situations in which you do should call 2 to fold the third as part of a balanced game.
Samo does a video on bluffs where he goes into depth on this concept.
Chris of course there is the odd situation depending on villain and board texture, as a general gameplan though it leaves you making far fewer (and smaller) mistakes, and doing it too much in spots where you're simply guessing on the river is a massive massive leak imo.
I've seen Samo's video if you're talking about the one from around a year ago. He calls twice with SD value to CR the river too.....
No it was one he did this summer. he showed a bluff he made versus a regular who shares your thinking. By knowing that the reg makes his decision early Samo is able to bet the turn and get a high freq of folds. He also knows that when villain calls the turn he calls the river thus allowing himself to be value bet mercilessly.
Dude, simply no-one is that observant that they can predict that player x always calls the river when he calls the turn, or that player b calls the flop and folds turn a lot, especially at 400nl and below..... and the whole point is not that I call rivers, I shove them, so good luck with those 'merciless' value bets you're gonna hate life. And as for turn folds I make many more flop folds, if you think that means I fold way too many flops then in every respect you're wrong, flops get raised, floated, double floated and I try as much as possible to make opponent's lives hell.
This is basically a debate between the merits close-to-meaningless theory (balance, protecting ranges, exploitivity) and what actually works in practice and makes you money. I don't know why you've gone so far the other way actually
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No-one yet he makes a video about it hmm. How do you shove rivers oop? I seen your flop folds that AQ hand is retarded.
Theory is never close to meaningless. Theory always works in practice.
How do we shove oop? Check shove, or check and win at showdown obviously, that's the whole point with a weak top pair or 2nd pair type hand.
The AQ hand just proves that you are utterly blinded by the standard.... ie at least prove your point beyond omg if you posted that on retard central (aka 2p2) everyone would agree with me. I'll spell it out... they guy is leading into 4 players on a dry board. There's a cold caller, and with it being 4way there's a smaller PSR. If he's leading the flop 4way with value as well as the few semi bluffs, then he's leading the turn too, so we're not just calling the flop it's an implied turn call too. Then, an unknown % of the time he bets the river too with an unknown % of bluffs and an unknown % of value where value crushes my 1 pair. So then we're left making a probable mistake in a bigger pot (and thus by implication a much bigger mistake).
So what would usually happen in your shoes is that you get to the river in a $130 pot with 1 PSR behind. He shoves river, you post it on leggo, hmm what do i do? Toss a coin comes the answer, meaning you end up making a massive mistake a massive % of the time, or a correct river fold where you could've lost a whole ton less. From the flop onwards, the turn and river possible outcomes in terms of cards to come mixed with betting frequencies simply do not add up to profitable situations, basically end of, and so we can ditch the 3bbs invested and move on with our lives. Reciprocally, I promise you we make money in this spot by folding the flop.
As for theory, yeah of course if the theory is sound it should work in practice. I guess that's my point, it's not sound because it assumes 100% observation of your frequencies from your opponents, and 100% exploitation of your unbalances from said opponents. The theory should be adjusted to take into account that this never actually happens. So, the theory is plain wrong actually..... it isn't a bad academic exercise but has no grounding in reality and the business of making money at poker.
The above is basically what Bobbo preached, and that's why I can't understand you going full circle.
We'll agree to disagree I guess, but I think my results will bear me out over time......!
When i said value bet mercilessly opponent basically can devise the most profitable betting range versus your turn calling range. Thus when they are betting it is with the intention of calling a shove, if they haven't already set up a river shove.
THE AQ hand. Shoving is more + ev than folding esp with all that lovely dead money. Calling to see a blank turn is still more + ev than folding. It has fuck all to do with being standard and you can't "make money" by folding the flop.
You talk about the theory being wrong, but every man and his dog has a hud and has enough nouce these days to understand you fold to turn barrels.
Bobbo preached playing each hand in the most +ev manner and thus having a sort of overall balance. Just because he preached it doesn't mean I agree with it.
I have a few things to retort to that last irrelevent comment, but what's the point.....!
P.S. I can't be arsed responding to any more comments. I am a plo pro anyway. Fuck you. I am taking you down in chess.
I can't be arsed either.... but just sayin 'its retarded' without even asking me about it doesn't do you any favours.
Your first paragraph I can only assume you think we're playing bots capable of exploiting each and every nuance of a reg's play....... Where is this laboratory that you speak of where all the regs are sat around devising optimal river betting ranges based on my turn fold %? Like, really?! Again, pointless theory VS reality, and only reality pays any money.
The thing about your advice is just that you speak from a position of plain ignorance given you know next to nothing about my game now.... I don't fold turns because I raise flops/ fold flops, or bluff raise turns or call them to shove river. It's just plain weird you got it into your head that I'm so unbalanced as to fold every turn after calling the flop, but really I'm just confused you think I'd be so stupid as to do that.
The AQ hand, we'll agree to disagree but again giving it a minute of thought wouldn't hurt you, like actually play out the various scenarios and the ranges you're up against on each street and the decisions you're forced to make...... or just say it's retarded and leave it at that, up to you i guess.
' I am taking you down in chess.'
of all your sentences the one most likely to be true
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